Posts Tagged ‘Obedience’

Is God Dismantling Denominations?

Saturday, February 6th, 2010


I’m becoming convinced that God has started to dismantle denominations. They served a purpose at one time – they fostered unity among a congregation and between like-minded congregations, but more than that, they helped to make concrete those aspects of faith that were essential. Formularizing faith has an advantage when people need to understand what their faith is all about – doing so comes at the risk of worshipping the formula rather than the faith. When we get too passionate about KJV versus NASB versus NIV, or about choir versus worship team – then we’ve lost the point of it all.

Again:

Tradition and Institutionalization are the enemies of Creativity; their weapons are comfort and safety – and they foster sloth, conformity, acquisition and control.… and you can quote me on that.

What seems to be taking the place of the relative permanence of denominations are the multisite churches. These

  • spread the Gospel and they have a focused approach – a unity – that is stable for a while. They can be dispersed across one or more states – even countries.
  • are innovative, creative and malleable – something that denominations cannot be.
  • are sustaining tremendous growth because they are young, dynamic and driven.
  • often have a very charismatic leader at the helm, who provides energy and vision.

Any single multisite church will die off or dissipate after a few decades as the leader slows down, moves on or passes away; its footprint can be picked up by another multisite, or by some completely new form of church that God may already be moving into place.

Another way that God seems to be working today is in combining efforts across congregations. Traditionally, churches that are already established have been at odds with a new church coming to town. They resent the potential loss of congregants, and I’m sorry to say that the minister is usually leading the way in this thought process. But we are called to unity, not jealousy…

1So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy, 2complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind. 3Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. 4Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.— Philippians 2:1-4 (ESV)

So it was refreshing to see this tweet from Geoff Surratt in late Jaunuary –

Heard through Twitter that NewSpring is coming to Charleston. Glad to hear it, we can use the help reaching the lost in the Low Country.

( is a pastor in a large multistate multisite church called Seacoast based in Charleston, SC; is the lead pastor of rapidly-growing NewSpring based out of Anderson, SC). This is out of the ordinary – even though it shouldn’t be. We are all in the Body of Christ; we have the same mission in Matt 28; we were all saved by the same Savior.

Different churches reach different people. They’re in different parts of town or the state; they have different leaders who have different skills in reaching out, in speaking, in connecting to others. One church might be blue-collar, another mostly white-collar. One church loves a liturgical service, another a contemporary one.

Could it be – just possibly – that God wants to treat churches as He does people? That he has given them different gifts with the specific intention that those gifts be used to compliment each other?

  • A church in a poor part of town provides the opportunity for a (financially) wealthier church to come beside it and receive Grace through sharing finances and also hard work – and thereby to recognize that financial and social privilege is not always the boon that the world makes it out to be (sometimes it can be a terrible impediment).
  • A church in India is in a tremendous position to do good for all those around it – it’s at ‘ground zero’, so to speak. It’s poor financially, but what it can buy (food, clothes, buildings) it can obtain locally at a very low cost compared to an American church. A church in the US can’t easily help physically, but it can afford to send money and perhaps a few people to give support and guidance to the fledgling church. The effect on the Indian church could be enormous, and the backwash is pure Grace.

(Interestingly, it’s the multisite church leaders that seem to be setting the pace here – we rarely if ever hear of leaders of denominations traveling overseas to work on ground-setting for church planting. Yet Pete Wilson ( ), the lead pastor of CrossPoint Church in Nashville, TN is in India as I write this; Perry Noble () was in Kenya last year.)

So I see this as part of God’s way forward for us. The missionary part we’ve been doing for a while – but the connection of multiple disparate churches in the same town – that’s so rare it can be thought of as new, and I see that aspect growing in the coming decade.

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What it’s Like to be Perfect

Thursday, October 15th, 2009


I’m perfect.

Oops – that was pride slipping in there. Maybe I’m not quite perfect.

In which case, I’ve also just told a lie. (Gack!)

Oh, like you’ve never fibbed before. (Uh-oh, that wasn’t a very nice thing to say. I’m getting in deep here.)

OK, I’m not perfect. There. I’ve admitted it. (Phew! That wasn’t too hard.)

So I can’t be all that bad. (Arggh! Pride again! It just snuck up on me!)

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If I had been made perfect, I’m wondering what the implications would be…

  1. Being perfect, I would never sin – never hurt anybody, always do the right thing.
  2. Therefore being perfect, I would have no personal understanding of what sin is.
  3. Therefore being perfect, I would never have a sense of wrong-doing.
  4. Therefore being perfect, I would never be aware of my separation from God.
  5. Therefore being perfect, I would never understand the power of sin.
  6. Therefore being perfect, I may experience sympathy, but would never experience empathy; and any compassion would be academic and patronizing.
  7. Being made perfect would have removed my free will, because I would be able to do nothing but perfect things.
  8. Therefore being perfect, I would never have the chance to fail. I would never have the opportunity to succeed despite myself.
  9. Therefore being perfect, I would never be stretched. I would never grow.
  10. Therefore (also from #8) being perfect, when God told me to do something and I did it, there would be no just reward because there was no chance I’d do the job badly or fail to do it at all.
  11. Therefore being perfect, I would never experience humiliation, shame or contrition; but I would also never experience forgiveness, rebirth, reward, praise and grace.
  12. Being perfect, God’s righteous perfection wouldn’t astound me, terrify me or shatter my complacency because – hey lookee! Me too!
  13. In fact, being perfect, I would be self-contained, so I would have no reason to reach for God.

On the other hand:

  1. Since I’m not perfect, eternal damnation is not my guaranteed end.
  2. Since I’m not perfect, Perfection took compassion on me.
  3. Since I’m not perfect, Perfection chose to redeem me.
  4. Since I’m not perfect, Perfection perfected me.
  5. Since I’m not perfect, Perfection adopted me.
  6. Since I’m not perfect, Perfection uses me (yes – Because, not Despite).
  7. Since I am far, far from perfection, I have a great many chances to blow it completely… Ah, but when I get it right the angels go nuts and God Himself says, “Well done!”

And that last is really where I’m headed here. Amongst other reasons, I was made imperfect in order that God could give me a piece of His action – a task that He wanted completed. And each time I fulfill a task in obedience to His design, I – Mr. Imperfect – get the pat on the back from the Everlasting King of Glory.

And that, I think, is a pretty good trade-off.

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Doing it God’s Way

Monday, November 10th, 2008


I’m thinking of all the times Israel went to war and won against incredible odds over the course of the Old Testament. Here’s a list off the top of my head – I’m sure there are more – feel free to add others in the comments and I’ll retrofit them:

  • Abram takes 318 men to battle against the united kings of Shinar, Ellasar, Elam and Goiim (who had already defeated Sodom, Gomorrah, Admah, Zeboiim and Zoar) – Gen 14:14
  • Gideon leads 300 men (of the original 32,000) against the Midianites and Amalekites and the ‘children of the East’ without number – Judges 7:7
  • Jonathan and his armor-bearer climb a cliff and kill the garrison (which turned out to be 20 Philistines) – 1 Sam 14:13
  • Ahab of Samaria in Israel (the northern kingdom) can raise just 232 commanders and 7,000 troops against Syria and 32 other kingdoms and routes them – 1 Kings 20:15
  • Ahab in Israel again against the same enemy – the Israelites kill 100,000, and city walls fall on 27,000 more – 1 Kings 20:29
  • Asa raises 580,000 men of Judah & Benjamin against 1,000,000 from Ethiopia. The Ethiopians run away – 2 Chron 14:8
  • Hezekiah besieged in Jerusalem and can raise only a prayer; the Assyrians lose 185,000 men – 2 Kings 19:35

(more…)

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