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		<title>Message: A Father&#8217;s Heart</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Jun 2010 14:30:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Steve</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Here are the supporting Scriptures from the message on &#8216;A Father&#8217;s Heart&#8217;, June 20, 2010. The audio message will be posted here: A Father&#8217;s Heart &#8230; and the slides are here: Further readings on &#8216;A Father&#8217;s Heart&#8217;: Want to know what your teenage kids are up against? This is an eye-opener: &#8230; and here&#8217;s another [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">H</span>ere are the supporting Scriptures from the message on &#8216;A Father&#8217;s Heart&#8217;, June 20, 2010. The audio message will be posted here: <a href='http://praisepcf.org/files/2010-06-20%20Steve%20Gwilt.mp3' >A Father&#8217;s Heart</a></p>
<p>&#8230; and the slides are here:</p>

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<p>Further readings on &#8216;A Father&#8217;s Heart&#8217;:</p>
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<p>Want to know what your teenage kids are up against? This is an eye-opener: </p>
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<p>&#8230; and here&#8217;s another &#8230;</p>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 20 May 2010 19:12:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wrapping up thoughts: An excellent conference and opportunity &#8211; worth a lot more than the price of admission. You sometimes do get more than you pay for. There wasn&#8217;t a whole lot of new information for me &#8211; its value to me was in what was repeated and confirmed. Sometimes you need to hear something [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">W</span>rapping up thoughts:</p>
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<li>An excellent conference and opportunity &#8211; worth a lot more than the price of admission. You sometimes <strong>do</strong> get more than you pay for.</li>
<li>There wasn&#8217;t a whole lot of new information for me &#8211; its value to me was in what was repeated and confirmed. Sometimes you need to hear something over and again for it to sink in (well, I do anyway).</li>
<li>The single most frequent repetition was &#8211; &#8220;Spend less time ministering to your congregation and more time ministering to your family.&#8221; (Perhaps a third of the speakers said this, either in the form of regretting they hadn&#8217;t or glad that they had.)</li>
<li>I was deeply impressed by the honesty of the speakers. Many of these people had made mistakes that they were sharing &#8211; that was gold they were mining and handing out.</li>
<li>I was also struck by how many speakers there are out there &#8211; people I&#8217;ve never heard of &#8211; who are excellent teachers.</li>
<li>One note hit a chord in me: the speaker (and I&#8217;m afraid I don&#8217;t remember which) said that people &#8211; including pastors &#8211; think that the most important job a pastor has is to lead the congregation. Not true. With every pastor, the thing God is building is the pastor, not the congregation. (That is: The most important relationship is the one a person has with God, not with the people God has called us to work with &#8211; and this applies as much to pastors as to anyone else.) This was a heavy thought, since we have always heard that the shepherd must be willing to sacrifice everything for the sheep.</li>
<li>Sound quality has been improved a little over the original &#8220;The Nines&#8221; conference, where the level was not balanced across the videos. This time it was &#8211; for the most part. However, the sound control for the live portions was very poor, and between that and the 4 or 5 videos that were not recorded at the same level as the rest we were running back to the sound board more than a dozen times during the session.</li>
<li>There were also some transmission issues that surfaced, which &#8211; considering the complexity of the project, and that it was pretty much a one-off &#8211; were understandable; they also gave us a chance to catch up, so they weren&#8217;t as frustrating as the sound issues.</li>
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<p>My one wish for future conferences: Youse guys run all the videos through level-balancing software to limit the sound levels to one range (an easy step to improve the quality of the presentation). I&#8217;ll set up closer to the sound board. Next time will be even sweeter!</p>
<p>All in all, an experience that I (and others at Praise Christian Fellowship) really appreciated. Thanks, Leadership Network.</p>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 May 2010 17:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Bruce Wesley do you want speed to reproduce or strength in generating leaders? Develop 2 bars of leadership &#8211; a speed bar &#38; a strength bar. Have yearly increments to move speed people to strength. Tammy Kelley Ask more questions; make fewer declarations good things can become intoxicating; intoxicating can become toxic live a life [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">B</span>ruce Wesley</p>
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<li>do you want speed to reproduce or strength in generating leaders?</li>
<li>Develop 2 bars of leadership &#8211; a speed bar &amp; a strength bar.</li>
<li>Have yearly increments to move speed people to strength.</li>
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<p>Tammy Kelley</p>
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<li>Ask more questions; make fewer declarations</li>
<li>good things can become intoxicating; intoxicating can become toxic</li>
<li>live a life more &#8216;fool for Christ&#8217; and less &#8216;impress&#8217;.</li>
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<p>Jason Barr</p>
<ul>
<li>I wish I&#8217;d never compromised</li>
<li>I hired people too fast; should have done more due diligence; wish I&#8217;d hired on chemistry more than credentials</li>
<li>noone can teach to be good stewards better than lead pastor &#8211; Don&#8217;t delegate this.</li>
<li>I would rather do things <em>for</em> people than <em>with</em> people; I wish I&#8217;d been a better shepherd. &#8220;People don&#8217;t care how much you know until they know how much you care.&#8221;</li>
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<p>Craig Strickland</p>
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<li>church plants tend to be a magnet for dysfunctional people</li>
<li>I seriously underestimated the importance of generous giving</li>
<li>It takes 3-5 years to change the DNA of the church</li>
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<p>Matt Hannan</p>
<ul>
<li>Avoid unnecessary wars</li>
<li>lead from the middle not the edge, even though the edge is attractional because it looks &#8216;edgy&#8217;</li>
<li>Don&#8217;t think that spiritual leadership is distinct from strategic leadership</li>
<li>God&#8217;s core agenda is &#8216;YOU&#8217;</li>
<li>People who model false values instill false values in their disciples (if you teach that prayer is important without actually being a prayer warrier yourself, people will learn to <em>say</em> prayer is important without actually being prayer warriers themselves.)</li>
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<p>Jeff Jones</p>
<ul>
<li>Wish I hadn&#8217;t tried to do it all. Missed out on a lot of things, so did my family.</li>
<li>Wish I&#8217;d tried to do only the things no one else could do, instead.</li>
</ul>
<p>Kevin Harney</p>
<ul>
<li>Having people keep sending money and prayers is fine, but not enough.</li>
<li>Having committees that plan outreach is fine, but not enough.</li>
<li>Organic Outreach is <strong>the</strong> target lifestyle.</li>
<li>Elders should be held accountable for outreach themselves.</li>
<li>Budget needs to reflect giving and outreach &#8211; what God&#8217;s call us to do.</li>
<li>Train and equip <strong>all</strong> people &#8211; youth, men &#038; women.</li>
</ul>
<p>Steve Stroope</p>
<ul>
<li>Wish I&#8217;d guided the church to live that &#8216;family&#8217; is the spiritual formation driver</li>
<li>Church must remind, resource &#038; equip the family to do it</li>
<li>Developed kiosk &#038; online to resource the family</li>
<li>Ensure that no ministry unintentially left the parents out</li>
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		<description><![CDATA[Evidently I like the books that are part of the Leadership Network Innovation Series. Dave &#38; Jon Ferguson’s The Big Idea 1 which I reviewed here and Larry Osborne’s Sticky Church 2 reviewed here were both significant reads for me, and now Geoff Surratt, Greg Ligon &#038; Warren Bird&#8217;s A Multi-Site Church Roadtrip: Exploring the [...]]]></description>
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<p><span class="drop">E</span>vidently I like the books that are part of the <a href="http://www.zondervan.com/Cultures/en-US/LNIS.htm">Leadership Network Innovation Series</a>. Dave &amp; Jon Ferguson’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310272416?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=gwiltorg-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0310272416">The Big Idea</a> <sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-1430-1' id='fnref-1430-1'>1</a></sup> which I reviewed <a href="http://steve.gwilt.org/blog/2009/05/05/review-the-big-idea/">here</a> and Larry Osborne’s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310285089?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=gwiltorg-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0310285089">Sticky Church</a> <sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-1430-2' id='fnref-1430-2'>2</a></sup> reviewed <a href="http://steve.gwilt.org/blog/2009/04/06/review-sticky-church/">here</a> were both significant reads for me, and now Geoff Surratt, Greg Ligon &#038; Warren Bird&#8217;s <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310293944?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=gwiltorg-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0310293944">A Multi-Site Church Roadtrip: Exploring the New Normal (Leadership Network Innovation Series)</a> <sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-1430-3' id='fnref-1430-3'>3</a></sup> dropped in wanting to be read and I’ve dog-eared many of the pages, just as I did their previous book, <a href="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0310270154?ie=UTF8&amp;tag=gwiltorg-20&amp;linkCode=as2&amp;camp=1789&amp;creative=390957&amp;creativeASIN=0310270154">The Multi-Site Church Revolution</a> <sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-1430-4' id='fnref-1430-4'>4</a></sup>.</p>
<p>The authors seem to enjoy drifting around the country visiting other multi-site churches – and they must have done it a lot in preparing this book. It’s a great scam! I only wish I’d thought of it first – but it’s always such a big deal for me to get organized for travel. However, I think they should take me with them for the next book.</p>
<p>‘Roadtrip’ is not an obvious book. Obvious would have been to write a chapter on each church visited, list the goods and bads of their implementation, then perhaps the history of the transition and a bunch of facts. And they do that, to a certain extent. But they also use each chapter to open up a sort of discussion on other areas of the multi-site challenges: technology, for instance (chapters 6 &amp; 7) or international campuses in chapter 9. The end result is that they cover different approaches to multi-site – Do we want to open a new campus locally, in another state, in another country, on another continent, even on another world (the internet (not Mars (yet)))? Does the preaching happen live because the other campus has its own teacher? Or does the preacher drive from one campus to the next to preach? Or is a message transmitted by satellite or the internet or mailed or driven around? All these have their discussions. Then again, what triggers the church to open the new site? Is it a deliberate spin-off, or did the second site start as a church in its own right and merge in (and why)? How do you go about doing this? What are the hard-and-fast rules, and what are the guidelines? (See IPOD for instance, chapter 1.)</p>
<p>(As an aside: Not so sure about the (somewhat difficult to read) infographic on p. 17 that has 6 milestones of multi-site history; number 1 is the birth of the Church and number 5 is the publication of their previous book. Seems like the relative importance of things went adrift somewhere there &#8211; not sure I&#8217;d put my book on <em>quite</em> the same level as the birth of the Church!)</p>
<p>Their definition of ‘Multi-site’ is “one church meeting in multiple locations, sharing a common vision, budget, leadership and board” (p. 10).</p>
<ul>
<li>You don’t have to be a mega-church to go multi-site.</li>
<li>10% of all Protestant Christians in the US and Canada worship in a multi-site church. (This seems high to me, but I’m convinced that multi-site is a trend that God is using – read <a href="http://steve.gwilt.org/blog/2010/02/06/is-god-dismantling-denominations/">‘Is God Dismantling Denominations?’</a> for more on that.)</li>
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<p>I appreciated the summary facts about each church at the front of the chapter. As it happens, many of the churches they visited are the same ones that get me excited about church innovation, and so I get this extra low-down on them. Cool.</p>
<p>Other points of interest:</p>
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<li>What kind of madman launches multiple new campuses at the same time? I mean, why would it even cross your mind? (See chapter 12 for how well it worked.)</li>
<li>What’s the difference between being a church <em>with</em> multiple sites and a church <em>of</em> multi-sites (See chapter 3.)</li>
<li>Think a long-established liturgical church made up of parents and grandparents can’t go multi-site? Wrong. (See chapter 3.)</li>
<li>Do not overlook the appendices. They’ve got some great summary information – resources, job descriptions and pitfalls to avoid.</li>
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<p>There is one page in the book that I think is very wrong (sorry guys!), and I realize that the authors may have been more carried away with the idea than considering the ramifications: Chapter 6 has the story of the woman who lives in Texas but every Sunday turns to her old church (in Florida) on the internet for her time of worship. True, some weeks she invites friends and family over to watch with her. But we&#8217;re specifically told that she is <em>not</em> connecting to a local church. Usually when you move to a new town you put down new roots; you find a new church; you make new friends and enjoy and grow from their fellowship. It’s not all perfect, but it’s important. Sad to say, at this point the book lionizes the fact that this woman ‘and a growing community of people&#8217; have used the internet to remove themselves from fellowship. This self-isolation – or clinging to the past &#8211; is emphatically NOT what we are called to do as Christians.</p>
<p>OK, flame off &#8211; I&#8217;ve just written about the only bit I disagree with. Not bad for 3 paragraphs of an entire book.</p>
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<p>In summary and in the main, I found it a tremendously helpful book. Questions that have been surfacing as my church plays with the ideas involved in expansion &#8211; such as planting, moving to a second service or going multi-site – are finding answers here. And between it and its predecessor, <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Multi-site Church Revolution</span>, a good ‘roadmap’ of options and their costs has been laid out.</p>
<p>Give it a read – it’s a tremendous resource and documents the early days of what I am convinced is one of God’s next steps for His Church.</p>
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<li id='fn-1430-1'>Dave Ferguson. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Big Idea: Aligning the Ministries of Your Church through Creative Collaboration (Leadership Network Innovation Series)</span>. Paperback. Zondervan, Jan. 12, 2007 <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-1430-1'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
<li id='fn-1430-2'>Larry Osborne. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Sticky Church (Leadership Network Innovation Series)</span>. Paperback. Zondervan, Oct. 1, 2008 <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-1430-2'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
<li id='fn-1430-3'>Geoff Surratt, Greg Ligon &amp; Warren Bird. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">A Multi-Site Church Roadtrip: Exploring the New Normal (Leadership Network Innovation Series)</span>. Paperback. Zondervan, Oct. 1, 2009 <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-1430-3'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
<li id='fn-1430-4'>Geoff Surratt, Greg Ligon &amp; Warren Bird. <span style="text-decoration: underline;">The Multi-Site Church Revolution: Being One Church in Many Locations (Leadership Network Innovation Series)</span>. Paperback. Zondervan, June 1, 2006 <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-1430-4'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
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		<description><![CDATA[Going through some old blogs in Bloglines, I bumped into one by Tony Morgan that pointed to a site that evaluates spiritual giftedness. That site starts with the passages in the New Testament that refer to spiritual gifts (Romans 12:3-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-40; Ephesians 4:7-16; 1 Peter 4:7-11) and builds a list [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">G</span>oing through some old blogs in Bloglines, I bumped into one by Tony Morgan that pointed to a <a href="http://buildingchurch.net/g2s.htm">site that evaluates spiritual giftedness</a>. That site starts with the passages in the New Testament that refer to spiritual gifts (Romans 12:3-8; 1 Corinthians 12:1-31; 1 Corinthians 14:1-40; Ephesians 4:7-16; 1 Peter 4:7-11) and builds a list of those gifts, then asks a lot of questions (125 in all) designed to draw out your gifts. It&#8217;s all a bit Myers-Briggs-ish (not a bad thing &#8211; INTJ here three times in a row). I don&#8217;t see it as the complete be-all and end-all, because I think that neither Paul nor Peter was doing anything more than giving a list of examples of giftedness &#8211; those listed weren&#8217;t God&#8217;s full list; if they were, they&#8217;d all be listed every time.</p>
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<p>However, it does give an indication of inclination to certain ministries based on the gifts it draws out. My church uses a list similar to this in the SHAPE class that we have everyone take when they become a member. So just for griggles and gins, I took it again. It only takes about 10-15 minutes. </p>
<p>Unsurprisingly, the areas that take no major physical effort were my high scores &#8211; Wisdom, Apostle, Leadership, Shepherd, Administration, Knowledge &#038; Teaching. Mid-range were the more physical gifts &#8211; Missionary, Voluntary Poverty, Giving, Evangelism, Service, Hospitality &#038; Helps (Service was dead center!), and the purely spiritual were mostly and pathetically waaay down at the bottom &#8211; although I was surprised that Prophecy, Exhortation and Faith fell above the physical gifts.</p>
<p>Give it a go &#8211; what are your high points? Spill the beans in the comments below.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[List of books I&#8217;m reading now (or RSN): Andrew Murray. With Christ in the School of Prayer: A 31-Day Course in Christian Prayer, with Note on George Muller. Spire Books. Paperback, 1972 &#8211; with my small group. Various commentaries on the book of Revelation for adult Bible fellowship at church Mark L. Waltz. Lasting Impressions: [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">L</span>ist of books I&#8217;m reading now (or RSN):</p>
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<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51oa8RjtSsL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Andrew Murray. <u>With Christ in the School of Prayer: A 31-Day Course in Christian Prayer, with Note on George Muller</u>. Spire Books. Paperback, 1972 &#8211; with my small group.</li>
<li>Various commentaries on the book of Revelation for adult Bible fellowship at church</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41cVEDcOkTL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Mark L. Waltz. <u>Lasting Impressions: From Visiting to Belonging</u>. Paperback. Group, Dec. 8, 2008</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51QCPQF9A6L._SL160_AA115_.jpg"/>Dan B. Allender. <u>To Be Told: God Invites You to Coauthor  Your Future</u>. Paperback. WalterBrook Press, Nov. 7, 2006</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31u7VCLASjL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Bob Kauflin. <u>Worship Matters: Leading Others to Encounter the Greatness of God</u>. Paperback. Crossway, Mar. 31, 2008</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/510NahhhFOL._SL160_AA115_.jpg"/>Dan Kimball. <u>They Like Jesus but Not the Church: Insights from Emerging Generations</u>. Paperback. Zondervan, Mar. 1, 2007</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/5132T4DMGEL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Jack Stack. <u>A Stake in the Outcome: Building a Culture of Ownership for the Long-Term Success of Your Business</u>. Hardcover. Currency/Doubleday, Mar. 19, 2002</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/31vNirDco6L._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Francis Chan. <u>Crazy Love: Overwhelmed by a Relentless God</u>. Paperback. David C Cook, May 1, 2008</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41YkNK5ZpFL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Ronald Rolheiser. <u>The Shattered Lantern: Rediscovering a Felt Presence of God</u>. Paperback. Crossroad, Feb. 1, 2005</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/417SX9KBVML._SL160_AA115_.jpg"/>Terry Nance. <u>God&#8217;s Armor Bearer Volumes 1 &#038; 2: Serving God&#8217;s Leaders</u>. Paperback. Focus on the Harvest, Dec. 2003</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41sRnbd7-yL._SL160_PIsitb-sticker-arrow-dp,TopRight,12,-18_SH30_OU01_AA115_.jpg"/>Tony Morgan. <u>Killing Cockroaches: And Other Scattered Musings on Leadership</u>. Paperback. B&#038;H Books, Mar. 1, 2009</li>
<li><img src="http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/51aP87b5%2B4L._SL160_AA115_.jpg"/>Geoff Surratt. <u>A Multi-Site Church Roadtrip: Exploring the New Normal (Leadership Network Innovation Series)</u>. Paperback. Zondervan, Oct. 1, 2009</li>
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<p>I&#8217;m just finishing off the last one, Multi-site Roadtrip, and will be writing a review in a couple of days.</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 05:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’m becoming convinced that God has started to dismantle denominations. They served a purpose at one time – they fostered unity among a congregation and between like-minded congregations, but more than that, they helped to make concrete those aspects of faith that were essential. Formularizing faith has an advantage when people need to understand what [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">I</span>’m becoming convinced that God has started to dismantle denominations. They served a purpose at one time – they fostered unity among a congregation and between like-minded congregations, but more than that, they helped to make concrete those aspects of faith that were essential. Formularizing faith has an advantage when people need to understand what their faith is all about – doing so comes at the risk of worshipping the formula rather than the faith. When we get too passionate about KJV versus NASB versus NIV, or about choir versus worship team – then we’ve lost the point of it all.</p>
<p>Again:</p>
<p><back>Tradition and Institutionalization are the enemies of Creativity; their weapons are comfort and safety – and they foster sloth, conformity, acquisition and control.<cite>&#8230; and you can quote me on that.</cite></back></p>
<p>What seems to be taking the place of the relative permanence of denominations are the multisite churches. These</p>
<ul>
<li>spread the Gospel and they have a focused approach – a unity – that is stable for a while. They can be dispersed across one or more states – even countries.</li>
<li>are innovative, creative and malleable – something that denominations cannot be.</li>
<li>are sustaining tremendous growth because they are young, dynamic and driven.</li>
<li>often have a very charismatic leader at the helm, who provides energy and vision.</li>
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<p>Any single multisite church will die off or dissipate after a few decades as the leader slows down, moves on or passes away; its footprint can be picked up by another multisite, or by some completely new form of church that God may already be moving into place.</p>
<p>Another way that God seems to be working today is in combining efforts across congregations. Traditionally, churches that are already established have been at odds with a new church coming to town. They resent the potential loss of congregants, and I’m sorry to say that the minister is usually leading the way in this thought process. But we are called to unity, not jealousy&#8230;</p>
<div class="sblockquote esv"><sup>1</sup>So if there is any encouragement in Christ, any comfort from love, any participation in the Spirit, any affection and sympathy, <sup>2</sup>complete my joy by being of the same mind, having the same love, being in full accord and of one mind. <sup>3</sup>Do nothing from rivalry or conceit, but in humility count others more significant than yourselves. <sup>4</sup>Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.<cite>— Philippians 2:1-4 (ESV)</cite></div>
<p>So it was refreshing to see this tweet from Geoff Surratt in late Jaunuary –</p>
<p><back>Heard through Twitter that NewSpring is coming to Charleston. Glad to hear it, we can use the help reaching the lost in the Low Country.</back></p>
<p>(<a href="http://twitter.com/GeoffSurratt" class="twitter-username">@GeoffSurratt</a> is a pastor in a large multistate multisite church called Seacoast based in Charleston, SC; <a href="http://twitter.com/PerryNoble" class="twitter-username">@PerryNoble</a> is the lead pastor of rapidly-growing NewSpring based out of Anderson, SC). This is out of the ordinary – even though it shouldn’t be. We are all in the Body of Christ; we have the same mission in Matt 28; we were all saved by the same Savior.</p>
<p>Different churches reach different people. They’re in different parts of town or the state; they have different leaders who have different skills in reaching out, in speaking, in connecting to others. One church might be blue-collar, another mostly white-collar. One church loves a liturgical service, another a contemporary one.</p>
<p>Could it be – just possibly – that God wants to treat churches as He does people? That he has given them different gifts with the specific intention that those gifts be used to compliment each other?</p>
<ul>
<li>A church in a poor part of town provides the opportunity for a (financially) wealthier church to come beside it and receive Grace through sharing finances and also hard work – and thereby to recognize that financial and social privilege is not always the boon that the world makes it out to be (sometimes it can be a terrible impediment).</li>
<li>A church in India is in a tremendous position to do good for all those around it – it’s at ‘ground zero’, so to speak. It’s poor financially, but what it can buy (food, clothes, buildings) it can obtain locally at a very low cost compared to an American church. A church in the US can’t easily help physically, but it can afford to send money and perhaps a few people to give support and guidance to the fledgling church. The effect on the Indian church could be enormous, and the backwash is pure Grace.</li>
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<p>(Interestingly, it&#8217;s the multisite church leaders that seem to be setting the pace here &#8211; we rarely if ever hear of leaders of denominations traveling overseas to work on ground-setting for church planting. Yet Pete Wilson ( <a href="http://twitter.com/PeteWilson" class="twitter-username">@PeteWilson</a> ), the lead pastor of <a href="http://CrossPoint.tv">CrossPoint Church</a> in Nashville, TN is in India as I write this; Perry Noble (<a href="http://twitter.com/PerryNoble" class="twitter-username">@PerryNoble</a>) was in Kenya last year.)</p>
<p>So I see this as part of God’s way forward for us. The missionary part we’ve been doing for a while – but the connection of multiple disparate churches in the same town – that’s so rare it can be thought of as new, and I see that aspect growing in the coming decade.</p>
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		<description><![CDATA[My small group buddy Mike ‘Roots’ has been writing on his blog about his church, and something he said about removing partitions struck a chord. For the past week I&#8217;ve been thinking along the lines of what he calls removing ‘partitions&#8217; as well &#8211; I&#8217;ve been calling them &#8216;white elephants&#8217; &#8211; I think every church [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">M</span>y small group buddy Mike ‘Roots’ has been writing on his <a title="Roots Extract" href="http://roots-extract.blogspot.com/2010/02/analysis-wrap-up.html" target="_blank">blog</a> about his church, and something he said about removing partitions struck a chord.</p>
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<p>For the past week I&#8217;ve been thinking along the lines of what he calls removing ‘partitions&#8217; as well &#8211; I&#8217;ve been calling them &#8216;white elephants&#8217; &#8211; I think every church has these. They are things that meant a great deal at some point in the church&#8217;s history, but now it&#8217;s time to review their worth. The elephant can be rules and regulations, traditions, memorials, plans laid down in the past by someone revered and now gone &#8211; there&#8217;s no limit to the invasion of the white elephant.</p>
<p>(The term comes from a gift that was given long ago in the Far East. An albino elephant was extremely rare and thus considered holy and in turn had to be treated with extreme care. A ruler would give one to another ruler or one of his wealthy subjects, ostensibly as a generous gift, but in reality as a means of imposing a penalty. The recipient would have to spend large sums of money to house, feed and generally care for this huge beast – which, because it was holy, made no contribution to the recipient whatsoever.)</p>
<p>The leaders of a church are called to a ministry that will forever change. Their church’s congregation, its interests, its giving and above all the culture that surrounds it… everything is guaranteed to change. Leaders must constantly re-evaluate the choices made in previous years – do those choices still apply, or should they be adjusted or even completely removed? If they really ARE white elephants, then they need to be disposed of. They have become resource drains or ministry blockers – we do not have the luxury of wasting the resources Christ gives us for His tasks.</p>
<p>Removing the elephant can be rough &#8211; some toes are going to be stepped on (which, for a large elephant, can hurt!) &#8211; but then the church is free to clean out the stall, reassign the elephant keepers and get on with the job at hand.</p>
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		<title>Should Churches Worry About Talents?</title>
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		<description><![CDATA[I’ve been thinking about churches recently – reading a lot about church leadership, following some of the great leaders’ blogs and twitters, thinking about how churches start and about how they come to an end. I suppose there are some that shut down by being called to do so, just as they started up. But [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">I</span>’ve been thinking about churches recently – reading a lot about church leadership, following some of the great leaders’ blogs and twitters, thinking about how churches start and about how they come to an end. I suppose there are some that shut down by being called to do so, just as they started up. But I can’t think of any offhand, and most die a long, painful, lingering death.</p>
<p>There are so many reasons for a church’s death – occasionally, people in a rural setting simply aren’t there anymore when the whole town shuts down; in an urban setting, sometimes the neighborhood becomes commercial or industrial and houses are pulled down and replaced with a mall or a factory. But mostly, I suspect, the church simply fails to listen, obey and fulfill its mission – to go into the world and make disciples. When it doesn’t do that, it lets Christ down; He pulls the plug.</p>
<p>A couple of days ago, I was thinking about the <strong>parable of the talents</strong> <sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-954-1' id='fnref-954-1'>1</a></sup>. We always think of it being applied to individuals, but I started wondering if it could be <strong>applied to a church</strong>. Do churches fit into this pattern? I think so.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s the précis: Some fit the 1-talent mold: they’re holding a great gift, but they’re clueless about what to do with it. They don’t want to risk losing what they have, so they bury the chance for success. Some fit the 2-talent mold: they take the risk and they find expansion happens, even though their situation isn’t ideal – they used what they were given to great effect. Then there are some that are 5-talent churches: they’re in an ideal position – they have the geography and the population, the leadership is just right and they act on it. They experience tremendous growth – in evangelism, in discipleship, in missions, in spiritual vitality.</p>
<p>Let me flesh that out after the Scripture:</p>
<div class="sblockquote esv">For it will be like a man going on a journey, who called his servants and entrusted to them his property. To one he gave five talents, to another two, to another one, to each according to his ability. Then he went away. He who had received the five talents went at once and traded with them, and he made five talents more. So also he who had the two talents made two talents more. But he who had received the one talent went and dug in the ground and hid his master&#8217;s money.</p>
<p>Now after a long time the master of those servants came and settled accounts with them. And he who had received the five talents came forward, bringing five talents more, saying,</p>
<p>&#8216;Master, you delivered to me five talents; here I have made five talents more.&#8217;</p>
<p>His master said to him, &#8216;Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.&#8217;</p>
<p>And he also who had the two talents came forward, saying, &#8216;Master, you delivered to me two talents; here I have made two talents more.&#8217;</p>
<p>His master said to him, &#8216;Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.&#8217;</p>
<p>He also who had received the one talent came forward, saying, &#8216;Master, I knew you to be a hard man, reaping where you did not sow, and gathering where you scattered no seed, so I was afraid, and I went and hid your talent in the ground. Here you have what is yours.&#8217;</p>
<p>But his master answered him, &#8216;You wicked and slothful servant! You knew that I reap where I have not sowed and gather where I scattered no seed? Then you ought to have invested my money with the bankers, and at my coming I should have received what was my own with interest. So take the talent from him and give it to him who has the ten talents. For to everyone who has will more be given, and he will have an abundance. But from the one who has not, even what he has will be taken away. And cast the worthless servant into the outer darkness. In that place there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.&#8217;</p>
<p><cite>&#8211; Matt 25:14-30 ESV</cite></div>
<p>There are churches that have been ‘doing church’ for so long it has become a habit, rather than a mission. New people aren’t searched for, or even delighted in when they arrive – they’re tolerated, and that only if they stay inside the boundaries that the church currently maintains. But the most terrifying thing of all is change. For these institutions, any change at all is anathema – someone in the congregation will object: “It’s not the way we do things here!” – so if change is suggested by anyone foolish enough to risk it, the suggestion is quickly squashed. Things that annoy people may cause them to leave, and 1-talent churches are too small and frail to be able to afford someone leaving. However, people <strong><em>must</em></strong> leave in the end, and as the oldest of the congregation are carried out, the congregation dwindles slowly into dust…and their talent is taken from them &#8211; they buried it, quite literally, in their coffins.</p>
<p>Then there are the 2-talent churches that really ‘get’ their mission, but may be positioned away from the big population centers and so don’t get the huge numbers of people that the mega-churches do. But they get to work anyway, and they apply creativity to their situation where they are; they embrace change as not just inevitable but also useful. They listen to the Word and the Spirit; they do some things with future growth in mind; they steal ideas and look at how ‘big’ churches model innovation – and they connect to the culture around themselves and in so doing reach others…and their 2 talents become 4.</p>
<p>Finally there are the 5-talent churches. Mega-churches have gotten a bad rap these days, but I have to wonder how much of this is fueled by jealousy or belief that it happened by some sleight-of-hand. Ministry shouldn’t be a competition; it should be a partnership. This is a race we’re all in, not as competitors but as a relay team. God forbid we should decide that other churches are ‘the enemy’ – hasn’t Satan won then? Isn’t that exactly what he wants? Get us to fighting against each other and we won’t have time to bring people to Christ.</p>
<p>The 5-talent church has the highest strengths, but also the greatest responsibilities. So many of these churches are in high-population areas, and for them, the following holds true:</p>
<ul>
<li> Big business thrives in the big cities; big business seeks out and draws in high-performers and makes them live in proximity.</li>
<li>High performers (Christian or not) want to excel – at maximizing income, fame, influence or anything else they see as their target. So they move to the cities.</li>
<li>Some high-performers are great leaders; all great leaders are high-performers. The city holds many great leaders.</li>
<li>Some great leaders are Christians, go to church, and become involved in their church’s missions.</li>
<li>A church, like every other endeavor, grows fastest under great leadership.</li>
<li>A church can only grow when it reaches out.</li>
<li>Churches can grow fastest and largest where there is the highest population to reach out to – in the cities.</li>
<li>Cities hold the densest population of broken people – some on the streets, some going there, some lost in other ways.</li>
<li>Christ seeks to heal, to comfort, to meet needs and to draw others to Himself.</li>
<li>Christ uses the church to do this.</li>
<li>The Spirit will guide the obedient church into developing ministries to fulfill Christ’s desire.</li>
<li>Big lostness requires a big response, which in turn requires big resources. The Spirit (an infinite resource Himself!) can marshal those resources through organizations willing to obey sacrificially.</li>
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<p>Christ has always put a premium on healing the lost and broken – unfortunately His church has often felt they were a nuisance. 2-talent churches &#8211; and 5-talent churches even more – must and do put themselves in the role of the Samaritan rather than the priest or the Levite<sup class='footnote'><a href='#fn-954-2' id='fnref-954-2'>2</a></sup>.</p>
<p>The only real difference in our parable between the servant who got 2 talents and the one that was given 5 talents is that their master favored the latter – presumably because he recognized higher potential – there was something greater that the 5-talent servant was capable of. The only difference between a 2-talent church and a 5-talent church is that the 5-talent church has similarly been granted access to greater resources – planted in a city, perhaps, rather than a rural area. There is no difference in the effort each put in – both doubled the original talents entrusted to them.</p>
<p>And the reward for each was identical. The master said, “<em>Well done, good and faithful servant. You have been faithful over a little; I will set you over much. Enter into the joy of your master.</em>”</p>
<p>We may not be called to be a 5-talent church – but that better not stop us from being a 2-talent church. When the Master in question is God, entering into His joy is beyond understanding!</p>
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<li id='fn-954-1'>The value of a talent has varied over the years; the NEB says it’s worth anywhere from 3,000 to 3,500 shekels, and that a shekel is worth about 11.5 grams of silver – that makes it about 34.5 kilograms, I guess – about $20,000 at today’s market price. It’s also said to be about 20 years’ worth of wages to a laborer. Either way, it’s a huge amount of money to drop onto your servant as you go away for a trip. “Here’s $20,000. Do something cool for me.” – and that was just the 1-talent servant. The next one up gets $40K. The top one gets $100K! <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-954-1'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
<li id='fn-954-2'>Parable of the Good Samaritan &#8211; Luke 10:30-35 <span class='footnotereverse'><a href='#fnref-954-2'>&#8617;</a></span></li>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Sep 2009 16:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[The Leadership Network have just released what I might call the &#8216;anchor speakers&#8217; for THE NINES conference tomorrow &#8211; like anchor stores in the mall, these names are well-known and provide place-holders &#8211; times when you will want to be there through the day. They&#8217;re all so great you&#8217;ll want to be present for each [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><span class="drop">T</span>he <a title="THE NINES Conference" href="http://thenines.leadnet.org" target="_blank">Leadership Network</a> have just released what I might call the &#8216;anchor speakers&#8217; for THE NINES conference tomorrow &#8211; like anchor stores in the mall, these names are well-known and provide place-holders &#8211; times when you will want to be there through the day. They&#8217;re all so great you&#8217;ll want to be present for each hour. Here&#8217;s the list (times converted to Eastern):</p>
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<li>10am – Troy Gramling, Mark Beeson, Anne Jackson, Dave Ferguson, Scott Hodge</li>
<li>11am – Perry Noble, Stacy Spencer</li>
<li>noon – Dino Rizzo, Nancy Beach, Steven Furtick, Reggie McNeal</li>
<li>1pm – Craig Groeschel, Leonard Sweet, Greg Surratt, Jon Tyson</li>
<li>2pm – Margaret Feinberg, Larry Osborne, Matt Carter, Pete Wilson</li>
<li>3pm – Neil Cole, Reggie Joiner, JD Greear</li>
<li>4pm – Mark Batterson, Dan Kimball, Mark DeYmaz</li>
<li>5pm – Jud Wilhite, Brian McLaren, Bob Roberts, Rick McKinley, John Ortberg</li>
<li>6pm – Alan Hirsch, John Bishop, Toby Slough, Ed Stetzer</li>
<li>7pm – Mark Driscoll, Darrin Patrick, Brad Powell</li>
<li>8pm – Darrin Whitehead, Brian Bloye</li>
<li>9pm – Eric Bryant, Nancy Ortberg, Rick Warren</li>
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<p>Some big names there, and some of my favorite speakers. I&#8217;m at least as excited that there are folks I&#8217;ve never heard of. If only a few of them are as good as the ones I know, I&#8217;m in clover.</p>
<p>Not sure why they didn&#8217;t list them all &#8211; they said &#8216;We don&#8217;t have room to list every one of the speakers here&#8217;, but as it&#8217;s an email I&#8217;m not sure what that means.</p>
<p>Also &#8211; vindication! &#8211; I&#8217;d like to note that this will run for 11+ hours as I predicted here last week. (I&#8217;m so proud&#8230;)</p>
<p>There&#8217;s almost 9,000 people signed up at this point, and lots more who are watching at central locations. Hope you can join us for the day tomorrow.</p>
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