I've Been Thinking About This…

David Loveless

• Don’t overload people with change – Gen 33:13
• Don’t be a person more convinced about outcome than the way to achieve it.
• Ask yourself – do we really need this change? Is this the right time? Are the right people involved in the change, or are acting ‘So Low’? Is this sustainable – can others keep up?

Robert Lewis

• Concentrate more heavily on foundation-building. I’d be ruthless about developing Godly men & women; Godly marriages; a children’s program that trained parents too; evangelism programs.

Dale Burke

• less really is more – be a boxer rather than a street-fighter (skillful)
• please others less, but focus on pleasing God more.
• Do less, but focus more on the main things.
• Do less, but focus on YOUR main things (gifts).
• Do less, but focus on the main people. Jesus spent most time with the 3; then with the 12; then with others.

Eric Swansen

• Talking about sin and the fall – didn’t really catch anything about what he would have done differently.

Mike Slaughter

• People are bringing Christ into their world-view, but not moving into Christ’s world-view.
• wish I’d shifted from attractional model to missional model earlier.
• There are 2,000 passages dealing with justice and the poor. If it’s not Good news for the poor, it’s not the Gospel (Luke 4:18).
• Make a commitment to put marriage before the church.
• Make connections with Godly mission people.

Elmer Towns

• Dream big, but look at the downside of the dream.
• Sometimes chasing what you think is the dream takes you to other places you don’t want to go – there’s more to the reality that the dream represents.

Michael Duduit

• I’d spend a lot more time making my sermons clear and less in making them clever.
• I’d leave out the impressive bits, no matter how much I liked them.

Walt Kallestad
‘Being the church’ vs. ‘doing church’
Simple, sustainable, significant.

• I would keep it simple – loving God, building community and being missional.
• Make sure that ‘doing church’ is sustainable. Teaching people the Bible and praying. (I’d pray more and work less.)
• Move toward significance – transformed people who move to Christ.

Carl George
Wrote “9 keys to an effective small group leader”

• (didn’t catch anyhing about what he would have done differently.)

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Ed Stetzer:
talking about “Mission is the opposite of self”
We have to work at that.
The heart is an idol factory.
Being a pastor is not a profession – it’s a calling.
We should resist the pull of idols and live the mission.

1. Those on mission focus on God’s glory and His agenda. We must minister out of the overflow. We worry about things, but they’re about us. Talk about being missional is nice, but need encounter with God. (Is 6:1-8)
2. those on mission reflect being on God. It must be obvious to others.(2 Cor 3:16-18)
3. Those on mission should no longer live for themselves (2 Cor 5:14-15) Mission is the opposite of self.

John Bishop:
The bigger our church gets the dumber we can get.
We can be touching lives or play church – be a club.
I blieve in the mission of the local church.
Afraid we’ll let fear or things that don’t matter keep us from God things.
Afraid we’ll be so interested in the good things we’ll miss the great things.
We need to take back the world – starting by going back to the Word.
Jesus didn’t say your church will be fishers of men – said you are. What is my conviction?
I’ll drop everything to take my kids’ phone calls – but is that true of my mission? Everyone says that, but how many actually come into the church?

Toby ?:
When the church leadership acts, the church follows.
If you want to be generous in the church, you must be intentional about it.
Get public about it and so will the congregation.
People are looking for ways to give of themselves, not just money.
- give away $50 each person
- fix my ride.
- used the reserve to look after the people in the community

Shawn Wood:
In the church world today, we get the opportunity to work with an undervalued group – creative people – and often avoid it.
Need to establish & make clear:
G – guardrails – time & $
E – Expectations
A – Accountability – who does what by when
R – Review – not to fix the past but to build more creativity in the future.

Alan Hirsch:
Recapping his book:

1. Recovering Jesus – rediscovery of the place of Jesus in life
2. Becoming like Jesus – a disciple
3. Encountering the world in an incarnational & missional manner
4. Apostolic environment – Eph 4 giftting
5. How the church should organize itself – organic systems
6. Comradeship – putting adventure into the venture

Dave Foster:
The importance of preparation.
Pastors speak sometimes 40+ times a year. Communication is only part of leading. If you are speaking always and only out of the overflow we need to be prepared.
Commit time and make preparation a priority.

Mark Driscoll:
Idolatory is by far the most frequently discussed problem in the Scriptures.
Definition – Rom 1 – exchanged the truth of God for a lie.
Idolatory is living for the worship of the creation.
1. Some idols present themselves as a savior – the woman who deifies motherhood to save herself from childlessness, or a man who deifies getting married.
2. Some idols tell you it can mediate between you and God – we talk to the pastor before God (get me closer to God 2 pet 1). That service is mediatorial – got rid of songs? how can I worship. Even worship worship.
3. Some idols give you identity. A husband; a wife; a pastor; a mother.
Taking a ‘good’ thing and make it a ‘God’ thing is a ‘bad’ thing. People

Matt Fry:
Pastors: Stay focused.
Don’t quit.
Find a mentor who’s a little further down the road.
God has called me to do this.
2 Tim 1:6-9 – For this reason I remind you to fan into flame the gift of God, which is in you through the laying on of my hands, for God gave us a spirit not of fear but of power and love and self-control. Therefore do not be ashamed of the testimony about our Lord, nor of me his prisoner, but share in suffering for the gospel by the power of God, who saved us and called us to [fn] a holy calling, not because of our works but because of his own purpose and grace, which he gave us in Christ Jesus before the ages began.

My identity is in my relationship with Jesus, not as a leader.
Compare your church size with others is a dead-end street.
God doesn’t want us to tear down.
Gal 6:9 – And let us not grow weary of doing good, for in due season we will reap, if we do not give up.
Don’t give up!

Darrin Patrick:
Luke 24:25-27 – And he said to them, “O foolish ones, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken! “Was it not necessary that the Christ should suffer these things and enter into his glory?” And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he interpreted to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning himself.
1 Cor 2:2 – to know Jesus and Him crucified
Rom 1:15 – the Gospel to those in Rome…the church.
Col 2:6 – as you have received Christ as Lord, so live in Him.
Repent (see, own & turn from your sin) & believe.
Tim Keller – rejoicing in your acceptance is a way of praising God that sweetens your heart…
2 Cor 8:9 – The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ.
Christianity is not spelled ‘D-O’, it’s spelled ‘D-O-N-E’.
if we don’t connect our preaching to the Gospel, we put ‘do’ in front of ‘who’.
Is the Bible a moral story with a little Jesus sprinkled in, or the other way around.

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Craig Groeschel:
3 things that God has been working on at LifeChurch.tv:

1. Working hard to let people become spiritual inovators. Values are constant, but culture must evolve.
2. Recruiting volunteers. Tend to delegate tasks and developing followers. Want to delegate authority to develop leaders.
3. Want to ensure that ministry is done by overflow rather than pass-thru. Done by seeking God more intently.

Leonard Sweet:

Sept 8, 1504 – Michelangelo unveiled David. Gave David a bigger head than normal – how do you deal with you big head?

David’s confrontation with God via Nathan listed in Psalm 51.

The “Jesus spirit” – confidence (we can do this – no limits) and humility (only with you). All things through Christ.

Teresa McBean:

Challenge your assumptions if you want to reach others for Christ

You can only be a transformer if you tell yourself the truth. Many church leaders do not run the race well – are we allowing God to speak into our lives with the truth? How can we tell addicts to trust God to transform them if we won’t trust Him ourselves?

Gregg Surratt:

Innovation grows out of desperation.

When something broken or it’s a barrier, how do you get around it? You have to innovate:

1. You get discouraged.
2. Trust God. Ask the barrier-breaking questions… He can break through barriers.
3. Brainstorming: green-light thinking – there are no bad ideas.
4. Every idea fits into the matrix: Easy vs Hard; big-win vs small win
5. Every new idea has an expiration date. Somebody shepherds it for a time. Every idea dies when it is given up on.
6. If we do not quit, God will bring the harvest.

Rick Rusaw:

Shift in the question we’re asking in church: from “How can we be the best church in the coummunity?” to ‘How can we be the best church for the community?”

Holy shoddy is still shoddy.

When we didn’t like the public schools or politics, we started our own – but it disengaged us from culture.

We’ve got to re-engaged. Get back into the stream that goes by the front door.

David Swanson:

John 10:10 – I came that they might have life, and have it to the full.

So many ministry leaders and pastors today who are dropping out. We can be our own worst enemies.

As communicators, we can manipulate people to give us the strokes. We get followed, so we think we’re great. We love how people look at us, but we don’t want them to find out who we are, so we isolate ourselves and fail to build into our lives the structures we should have for authenticity.

We hurt the Church.

Eph 5:27 – so that he might present the church to himself in splendor, without spot or wrinkle or any such thing, that she might be holy and without blemish.

We should protect the Bride in every thing we do.

Public persona and who you are in private must draw together. The closer these are, the more authentic you are.

1. What’s your time with the Lord like? Are you disciplining yourself?
2. What accountability do you have? Who can get into your business and into your face?
3. Who do you have that mentors you?
4. What are you doing to protect your marriage?
5. What are you doing to build into the lives of your children? Are they priorities?
6. What are you doing in secret that needs to be brought to light?

One of the great gifts you give to the Lord is a boundless life in Christ.

Bill Cornelius:

Talking about the “power of mentoring”.

Ex 33 – Joshua being mentored by Moses.

1. Getting and keeping a mentor. Make sure input comes from experience, not academics.
2. Going to conferences – don’t assume the big ones are the right ones.
3. Coaching – more expensive, but worth it. Meet with leaders on the rung you’re going for.
4. Have lunch with leaders, even if you have to travel. Then do the things they say you need to before you meet with them again.
5. Pray for your mentors.

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Dino Rizzo:

Phil 3:10 -that I may know him and the power of his resurrection, and may share his sufferings, becoming like him in his death,…

1. To know Christ – privately, in marriage, for your children, at work. Lift Him higher.
2. To know the people that you serve, and the hurts they’re suffering.
3. To know your partnerships. Churches can link up with other groups that develop their reach into the communites.
4. Know the poor in your community. Hungry, widowed, those with health issues. Small acts of kindness can go a long way in someone’s life.

Keld Dahlmann (Denmark):

History of Finland – 3 principles  from WW II the Winter War USSR vs Finland:

1. Determination – the Finns had to win the war – know your ‘must win’ battles.
2. Know your context: too often the world knows the context better.
3. Travel light; guerrilla model of warfare: look for lightweight ministry – sustainable; doesn’t demand overwhelming support.

Jorge Acevedo:

“Lord, send us the people that no one else wants”

How often do we commit spiritual malpractice? We tell people that Jesus can change lives, but we fail to provide adequate “places, spaces, people and processes “?

Are we lowering the crime rate in our city? If we went away, would the crime rate go back up? Real life change is bone-deep.

Sometimes we can get the inside cleaned up, but the outside – health, education, jobs – don’t get supported. A whole person is someone transformed inside and out.

Nanacy Beach:

What happens when you serve in the support circle of someone who, as you get closer to them, displays less of Christ, not more?

Above all else, guard your heart:

1. Prov 4:23 – guard your heart with all vigilance, for from it flow the springs of life.
2. Do you have safe relationships?
3. People who will speak truth without condemnation. Are you growing?

Stephen Furtick:

I want to inspire and raise the level of your faith to the audacious level.

1 Kings 17  - And after a while the brook dried up, because there was no rain in the land.

Elijah did exactly what the Lord told him to do, but the brook has dried up. It wasn’t because Elijah disobeyed or was forgotten, but so that God could move him to a new level of power and service.

Reggie McNeal:

People of God, partnering with God

1. People of God. Church is a ‘who’ not a ‘what’. Nowhere in the NT is a church referenced as being smaller than a city – it is a ‘who’.
2. Partnering with God. We don’t own the mission – it’s God’s. It started in the Garden of Eden – to bless the world. Try praying to bless 3 people each day. It’s not “God so loved the church” – it’s “God so loved the world“.

Noel Heikkenin:

The story about the moth coming out of the cocoon.

• God wants to squeeze our egos out of the ministry
• Pastoring is something that elders do
• Pastors should be able to spread the load across the elders and lead with them in unity – it’s the NT model
• It’s painful, but it’s the way God set up the church.

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Perry Noble:

A movement of God cannot be planned, but it must be prepared for.

We try to plan it, but we can’t dictate to the Holy Spirit, and we can’t duplicate what happened in another church.

Acts 1:6-8 – you get to be sent by me (not you or your church).

Get on your face and pray. What are you doing to prepare for God’s movement in your church?

Skye Jethani:

Do we lack the strategy or motivation to grow the church.

The ‘daisy cutter doctrine’ – the larger the impact of our ministry, the greater the impact for the Gospel. This inhibits our ability to speak for the Lord. We look for success in terms of numbers. But Jesus’ ministry by that definition was a failure.

Numbers 20 – Moses disobeys God but the miracle happens regardless. So we conclude that tangible outcome must mean legitimate ministry. This would be wrong.

How different would we be if we rooted our identities in being children of a loving Father? We are called to abandon our outcomes to God.

We are called to deeply commune with Him, then obey without regard to the outcome.

1. your legitimacy comes from God
2. stop judging legitimacy by outcome of ministry
3. if we are truly rooted in Christ, then we will find the power & strength to defy surrounding culture.

Steve Robinson:

talking about “Leading in times of pressure”

What comes out of you when you’re under pressure? The Bible is filled with examples of men & women under intense pressure. Ex 14:13 – “Fear not. Stand firm.” Fear seeks to paralyze you – one of Satan’s greatest weapons.

‘Worry is temporary atheism.’

In times of pressure, step out.

1. fear not
2. stand firm
3. step out
4. hold your peace

Stacy Spencer:

Don’t give up on folks when they fall.

There are a lot of people in ministry that get stuck in a pit – and we walk away. Pits because of unpopular preaching or moral failings. Jeremiah would have died in the well without help - Jer 38:10

Don’t look down on someone unless you’re looking down to help them up.

1. help those who can’t help themselves.
2. do what you’d want them to do for you
3. use church resources to help people who are stuck

Ebed-Melech was spared after the city was captured because he helped Jeremiah

Scott Wilson:

Talking about “Raising the level of leadership at church”

Churches can’t grow past its leadership.

Eph 4:11 – He gave some to be apostles …

Leaders need to equip people of God to do the ministry, not to do it myself.

We can lead only the number we’re currently leading. To grow, you need to become leaders of leaders.

1. year 1: model: we should be reading (35 books in the year – 100 leadership CDs)
2. year 2: mentor: (20 books & 50 CDs) – plus discipling other people – being equippers.
3. year 3: multiply: get the followers to mentor.

Do you have a system in place to grow?

Amy Hanson:

talking about “ministry to middle & old-aged”

We need to develop ministries for active older folks who don’t want to be marginalized.

1. They represent a huge network of resources in time and wisdom. They may have an entreprenurial spirit; they could mentor younger people.
2. Many don’t have a relationship with Christ. They are often in crisis – loss of loved ones, loss of jobs – and they may be open to salvation.
3. This is a chanceto rewrite church culture for this age group.

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The Leadership Network have just released what I might call the ‘anchor speakers’ for THE NINES conference tomorrow – like anchor stores in the mall, these names are well-known and provide place-holders – times when you will want to be there through the day. They’re all so great you’ll want to be present for each hour. Here’s the list (times converted to Eastern):

• 10am – Troy Gramling, Mark Beeson, Anne Jackson, Dave Ferguson, Scott Hodge
• 11am – Perry Noble, Stacy Spencer
• noon – Dino Rizzo, Nancy Beach, Steven Furtick, Reggie McNeal
• 1pm – Craig Groeschel, Leonard Sweet, Greg Surratt, Jon Tyson
• 2pm – Margaret Feinberg, Larry Osborne, Matt Carter, Pete Wilson
• 3pm – Neil Cole, Reggie Joiner, JD Greear
• 4pm – Mark Batterson, Dan Kimball, Mark DeYmaz
• 5pm – Jud Wilhite, Brian McLaren, Bob Roberts, Rick McKinley, John Ortberg
• 6pm – Alan Hirsch, John Bishop, Toby Slough, Ed Stetzer
• 7pm – Mark Driscoll, Darrin Patrick, Brad Powell
• 8pm – Darrin Whitehead, Brian Bloye
• 9pm – Eric Bryant, Nancy Ortberg, Rick Warren

Some big names there, and some of my favorite speakers. I’m at least as excited that there are folks I’ve never heard of. If only a few of them are as good as the ones I know, I’m in clover.

Not sure why they didn’t list them all – they said ‘We don’t have room to list every one of the speakers here’, but as it’s an email I’m not sure what that means.

Also – vindication! – I’d like to note that this will run for 11+ hours as I predicted here last week. (I’m so proud…)

There’s almost 9,000 people signed up at this point, and lots more who are watching at central locations. Hope you can join us for the day tomorrow.

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